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Job and Knock wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:51 am The Hikoki 18ga is a nice bit if kit, but as you say a but pricey for occasional use.. I went Hikoki (clipped head 1st fix, 15ga, 16ga and 18ga 2nd fix) at the beginning of the year when I switched from DW. Guns seem well built and certainly can generally punch nails or pins under in hardwoods, something the DW 16gs and 18ga pinners aren't as good at. Instant firing (no run up delay) and really quiet, too

I was using my 1st fix DW nailer today and for the first time many nails didn't seem to sink. I think the problem was the rebound from the fence so when I pressed hard the nails sunk in. I know many have reported this problem but this is the first time it's happened to me and I've had it at least 4 years. I'm going to strip it down tomorrow and have a good look at it.

From reports I've read the Hikoki is the best framing nailer but I don't fancy the ballache of changing over as I'd need to buy the batteries and charger as well.

The DW needs several thousand nails to run it in and get maximum power out of it. The lower speed also means that, as you conclude, materials need to be securely held or supported - but you should do that in any case

Job and Knock wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:06 pm The DW needs several thousand nails to run it in and get maximum power out of it. The lower speed also means that, as you conclude, materials need to be securely held or supported - but you should do that in any case

What lower speed?

The speed of the nail entering the timber on a gas nailer is higher than thd speed on a DW nailer, especially when a DW is new and tight - as evidenced by the DW not always sinking nails where gas nailer can when new

DW themselves state that until their 1st fix nailers are run in you are not advised to use 90mm nails. It's a bit like buying a new car and running it in