www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk

its strange most seem to be selling it between £40 and £65

d&m are doing it for £29 so a bit dearer than £25
http://www.dm-tools.co.uk/product.php/s ... n/ARRET100

Nice one

There are some huge differences in price

There are some real bargains now and again on screwfix

ultimatehandyman wrote:Nice one

There are some huge differences in price

There are some real bargains now and again on screwfix

i frequently post on other forums what i think are great offers i should now extend that to uhm is that ok with you uhm

UHM, can you set up a bargain tool section then, either as a sub forum within tool talk, or near it?

Yeah.

Great idea, I'd find that useful as I replenish my collection.

What about a (FS) For Sale, (WTB) Want to Buy, (FTGH) Free to Good Home Section too.

Hi skiking

To try and answer your question, brads are small headless or near headless nails, generaly 18 gauge (American Wire Gauge) or smaller. The commonest sizes are 18g (1.023mm) and 22 or 23g (0.645 and 0.574mm respectively). 18g is used to hold carcasses, etc together whilst the glue sets, a technique beloved of Norm Abraham, whilst the smaller 22/23g are specifically used to fix small trim mouldings onto cabinetwork in (normally) production invironments. You won't see a cheap 22/23g brad pinner anywhere - they are strictly trade tools with a price tag to match - you will however see low-cost 18g pinners around and if you make plywood or MDF furniture, etc they have their uses, although you cannot regard the brads as long term construction components! Brads come in "sticks" and can't be driven by either a hammer or the tool you describe without grave risk of bending.

Above these in size are the finish nailers, generally 16g (1.29mm) which are more suitable for external joinery. Larger guns driving 15g (1.45mm) are also available and these generally have the advantage of using an angled magazine which is very much handier in terms of clearance.

Scrit

Jaeger_S2k wrote:Yeah.

Great idea, I'd find that useful as I replenish my collection.

What about a (FS) For Sale, (WTB) Want to Buy, (FTGH) Free to Good Home Section too.

Seems like a good idea, I'll look into it

Scrit wrote:Hi skiking

To try and answer your question, brads are small headless or near headless nails, generaly 18 gauge (American Wire Gauge) or smaller. The commonest sizes are 18g (1.023mm) and 22 or 23g (0.645 and 0.574mm respectively). 18g is used to hold carcasses, etc together whilst the glue sets, a technique beloved of Norm Abraham, whilst the smaller 22/23g are specifically used to fix small trim mouldings onto cabinetwork in (normally) production invironments. You won't see a cheap 22/23g brad pinner anywhere - they are strictly trade tools with a price tag to match - you will however see low-cost 18g pinners around and if you make plywood or MDF furniture, etc they have their uses, although you cannot regard the brads as long term construction components! Brads come in "sticks" and can't be driven by either a hammer or the tool you describe without grave risk of bending.

Above these in size are the finish nailers, generally 16g (1.29mm) which are more suitable for external joinery. Larger guns driving 15g (1.45mm) are also available and these generally have the advantage of using an angled magazine which is very much handier in terms of clearance.

Scrit

Hi Scrit - Thats a good description. To put into perspective I guess a brad nailer wouldn't be the tool to use to attach doorway architrave nor would it be suitable for laying wooded flooring but it could be use full for secret nailing in T&G cladding (ceiling) prior to sinking 'real' nails for the final fix. Is my understanding correct.

I do get the impression I'd need to splash the cash to get the right tool for the above jobs in which case I'll just resort the the old fashioned way of a manual hammer

skiking wrote:To put into perspective I guess a brad nailer wouldn't be the tool to use to attach doorway architrave nor would it be suitable for laying wooded flooring but it could be use full for secret nailing in T&G cladding (ceiling) prior to sinking 'real' nails for the final fix. Is my understanding correct.

Yes, spot on there. The thing to remember that 18g brads are tiny in comparison to traditional panel pins so they really have very little intrinsic strength. To nail architraves and flooring you really need to be looking at a finish nailer (16 gauge) or possibly even a 1st fix nailer (15 gauge) whilst exterior work like decking, fencing, roofing, etc really calls for something like full head nailer such as this:



Scrit

Thanks for the reply - so hammer it is then

Going back to the original post re: AllNailer - well I took it back to BnQ and got my £40 back. Now need some other toy to buy!