Cost between installing a flat pack kitchen and rigid kitchen

[teams]

Hi Guys

What should be the cost difference between the two? (reduction in cost)

One clearly involves more work (flat pack).

Thanks in advance.

[dewaltdisney]

This is an unanswerable question. It depends on how many units, where you are in the country, and the availability of trades. If you can assemble the units yourself, quite repetitive and boring, and store the units ready for installation, the cost should be similar.

DWD

[Someone-Else]

dewaltdisney is not wrong, you have given too little information, and even if you gave more information the answer would still be a guess, so from those guesses YOU would have to choose, and by human nature you would opt for the cheaper one, even if it is not the right answer.

[teams]

This is an unanswerable question. It depends on how many units, where you are in the country, and the availability of trades. If you can assemble the units yourself, quite repetitive and boring, and store the units ready for installation, the cost should be similar.

DWD

Greater London, 14 units, the units will arrived pre-built, a case of installation. Trades people readily available.

[dewaltdisney]

There is again a wide range of issues to be taken into account. A kitchen installation is a multi-task job. Flooring, electrical, plumbing, tiling, worktops, and the list goes on. The job will be priced according to other factors like parking, materials, and disposal of waste. Just get a number of quotes and pick who you think will do the best job at an acceptable price.

DWD

[Someone-Else]

and even if you gave more information the answer would still be a guess, so from those guesses YOU would have to choose, and by human nature you would opt for the cheaper one, even if it is not the right answer.

[yartin]

Have you removed old units?
Is it the electric done, ie; lights and wiring?
Is the floor done/ready?
Is the plumbing done?
Are wall and ceiling all prepared and ready?
Do you have a kitchen plan for the builder?
Is the are any wall tiling to be done?
Free standing or integrated appliances? New appliances?
Do you ave electric/ gas cooker now? staying same way? new cooker?
Assume new worktop, are they laminate chipboard (cheap to fit), solid wood, compact resin? The cost of fitting varies on these.

There are so many details/variables, you have to take your time, plan and organise, do not rush.

If money is no object, get one kitchen fitter/builder to do the whole thing, costly but quick not necessarily to a standard you want. For 14 units, Price would vary from £5K to £20K

[yartin]

The cost difference between flat pack and rigid kitchen is similar, not much in it.

[big-all]

Hi Guys

What should be the cost difference between the two? (reduction in cost)

One clearly involves more work (flat pack).

Thanks in advance.

you need to find your tradesman and ask how he works
some will only supply and fit
some will only fit what you supply
some use there discount as part off there payment so can backfire iff you want to supply

if they supply they do all the running around and are responcible for faulty goods even after correct installation

you supply once correctly fitted any further problems are yours and chargable for further work with you doing all the running around

[teams]

Have you removed old units?

No

Is it the electric done, ie; lights and wiring?

Yes

Is the floor done/ready?

Yes

Is the plumbing done?

Yes

Are wall and ceiling all prepared and ready?

Yes

Do you have a kitchen plan for the builder?

Essentially replacing the old units, any changes has been highlighted

Is the are any wall tiling to be done?

Just a of tiling, those large tiles

Free standing or integrated appliances? New appliances?

New appliances, except fridge

Do you ave electric/ gas cooker now? staying same way? new cooker?

Gas Cooker, new cooker will be gas

Assume new worktop, are they laminate chipboard (cheap to fit), solid wood, compact resin? The cost of fitting varies on these.

100% Laminate

There are so many details/variables, you have to take your time, plan and organise, do not rush.

If money is no object, get one kitchen fitter/builder to do the whole thing, costly but quick not necessarily to a standard you want. For 14 units, Price would vary from £5K to £20K

[diydiy11]

For what it's worth (I'm certainly no pro) my opinion is : Get a solid built one, they're worlds away in quality and the price difference isn't as stark as you'd think. What you save on the labour might make up the cost difference.

I've just fitted one myself and even having prebuilt is enough faffing around laying out exactly, levelling perfectly, affixing to the wall + all the appliances and dor clearances. I'm so glad I didn't have to spend a day or two assembling them/finding parts are missing/damaged and most of all having to contend with the stupid thin plywood back panels.
I looked at trying to buy a Wickes flatpack one initially and by my calculations the 18mm throughout solid, prebuild units I ended up buying from a trade outlet were actually cheaper.

I laid all the plumbing in readiness so only had to add the pipe penetrations into the cabs with the isolators and the new waste outlet which was an afternoon's work. There was no extractor before but I ran the ducting before I plastered. I also had an electrician do the first fix before I plastered, bit messy and drawn out as a process but its been cheap. The fact the units are solid have been a bit of a saving grace on one occasion where the appliance being recessed needed more chopping our then you'd normally be comfortable with, having support from 3 sides rather than two made it no bother at all, where as flatpack would be a nightmare.

[yartin]

For 14 units plus bit wall tiling, boxing, panels, worktops, basic plumbing plus a mini skip, anything much below £5k would be a cowboy job IMO, anything over £15k would be taking the p!ss. That's only for labour. Be prepared for unexpected extra job comes about and extra charge, also you may need to redecorate some parts.
As said above, it's impossible to price such in a forum.

There is only one way, get quotes not one or two get few from places like: yell.com, mybuilder.com, **********, ratedpeople.com, ********.com and the likes... That's where I find tradesmen for jobs I can't do, you know my secrets now .

Ps, I have no idea why ********** are blanked out?!

[dewaltdisney]

Strange how times move on I always looked at installing a basic kitchen in a cleared space as a good week's work depending on plumbing and electrical. The cabinet installation using readymade units is not too difficult, something you should consider doing yourself which is the point of a DIY forum. I do not see the £5k, more like £1,500 but maybe I am behind the times. Hopefully, Fin will pick this up and give a good idea of the price as he regularly does this sort of work.

DWD

[teams]

Strange how times move on I always looked at installing a basic kitchen in a cleared space as a good week's work depending on plumbing and electrical. The cabinet installation using readymade units is not too difficult, something you should consider doing yourself which is the point of a DIY forum. I do not see the £5k, more like £1,500 but maybe I am behind the times. Hopefully, Fin will pick this up and give a good idea of the price as he regularly does this sort of work.

DWD

We've had three quotes so far, one for £1,600 (visited - reduced because of ridged units, originally £1,700), one for £2,500 (over the internet) and one for £2850 (visited - he kept adding bits on) all from MyBuildercom.

[Neelix]

Which one do you trust and are their prices fixed or do their quotes allow for extras?

And what about VAT?

I would also say ask friends and neighbours for recommendations