Mini+Maxi Level

julesbrad · Post by **julesbrad** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:59 pm

Would like your comments about Mini+Maxi Level.

The Mini Level can be used on it's own as a small spirit level.
Attached to the Maxi Level it becomes an aluminium spirit level just over 1 metre long.
Add the 'legs' which can be adjusted up and down the length of the Maxi Level with sliders within the legs allowing the marking of drill holes or lines.

The legs can be fixed so multiple dril holes can be marked very quickly.
The sliders within the legs can be set so that pipe work which needs to run off can be set at a gradient as ow as 1mm in 1 metre.

I have attached an image of the product.

Thanks for any comments or questions.

Hitch · Post by **Hitch** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:28 pm

Personally id much rather have 2 levels, rather than a 2 in 1 level. changing it over every five minuites would be a pain in the backside. How does it attach?

I think it looks like something a sunday afternoon diyer would buy in BnQ, thats about the limit. Cant wait to see a few more opinions.

julesbrad · Post by **julesbrad** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:03 pm

Hi Hitch - thanks for your response

The Mini scale is 'slid' on to the aluminium maxi level from the end and the reason for this is so that the Mini level can be slid onto the same side as the legs aswell as additional legs being able to be slid onto one side (i.e. 4 legs on one side) or additional legs can be slid onto opposite sides (i.e. 2 legs above, 2 legs below)

As you said, you would probably use two levels rather than constantly taking off and putting back the Mini level but hopefully you would find many uses of the product with the legs (such as drawing vertical lines using the legs at set distances apart for fitting radiators)

Post by **ultimatehandyman** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:16 pm

I would also rather have two levels, using the item above could not be as accurate as using a metre long level and is kind of like just using a small spirit level on top of a large straight edge.

I really can't see any benefits at all from using this product, even for fitting radiators!

Hitch · Post by **Hitch** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:21 am

I see where you are coming from. Its seems a good idea, but pointless unless you are doing exactly the same thing with the same measurements over and over.

Hinton Heating · Post by **Hinton Heating** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:23 am

I agree, its not very useful... the legs seem awkward, and radiators is a bad example, very seldom the brackets are the same distance apart.

By teh time you've set the legs, the tape measure would've been used & points marked.

The bit about keeping the same gradient could be slightly useful, but this can be achieved by just ensure the bubble in a normal level is always the same offset.

As previously said, seems a DIY gadget, that a real tradesman just wouldn't use.

gary · Post by **gary** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:10 pm

i have been reading replies to this and does anybody understand its uses before commenting, for instance one comment said all radiator brackets aren't the same, well that is why the legs slide up and down the level. how can it be quicker to use a tape measure and how hard is it to slide a leg along the level to the required measurment and lock it. if you were to do four radiators or mors you can set the level to the required measurement and mark the holes for each radiator very simply. i can not understand people slagging off other peoples ideas when they don't really have a clue how it works.

Post by **ultimatehandyman** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:17 pm

gary wrote:i have been reading replies to this and does anybody understand its uses before commenting, for instance one comment said all radiator brackets aren't the same, well that is why the legs slide up and down the level. how can it be quicker to use a tape measure and how hard is it to slide a leg along the level to the required measurment and lock it. if you were to do four radiators or mors you can set the level to the required measurement and mark the holes for each radiator very simply. i can not understand people slagging off other peoples ideas when they don't really have a clue how it works.

Perhaps the person who's idea this is should send out one of these amazing levels to one of the forum members and they can try it?

I am sure that Hinton heating would get plenty of opportunity to use it as he does this for a living.

If you ask for an opinion you will get it and people will not pussyfoot around or say something is the best thing since sliced bread if it is not!

Marking the brackets for radiators takes a matter of seconds, why on earth would anyone use anything other than a spirit level and tape measure?

gary · Post by **gary** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:19 pm

i think if he sent one to a forum member that member would think it was a tooth pick

Post by **ultimatehandyman** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:29 pm

gary wrote:i think if he sent one to a forum member that member would think it was a tooth pick

Why is the invention that poxy that it could be confused with a tooth pick

?

skiking · Post by **skiking** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:30 pm

gary wrote:i think if he sent one to a forum member that member would think it was a tooth pick

Perhaps you're slightly misjudging forum members intelligence here

Jaeger_S2k · Post by **Jaeger_S2k** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:37 pm

I see....

The Sales Manager comes on with a great pitch, get's knocked and ....

The Marketing Manager comes on to do some confrontational PR.

This is ULTIMATE HANDYMAN fella's, if you wanted a softly, softly approach you should have taken it to The Dragon’s Den!

gary · Post by **gary** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:38 pm

i'll apologies its just somebody has come up with a half descent idea and people just slag it off without really understanding what it is. anyway very sorry for upsetting you all i was just a little frustrated

skiking · Post by **skiking** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:42 pm

I don't think anyone has slagged it off but merely said its a bit of a gimmick - like a number of things in life

julesbrad · Post by **julesbrad** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:42 pm

Hopefully, this thread won't turn too nasty.

My original post was simply asking for comments and questions about the product and all the responses are gratefully received - thank you everyone for your comments which have al been taken on board.

The product is aimed more at the DIYer rather than tradespeople who will be so adept that these kind of products may indeed not help them but, hopefully, DIYers will find it quite useful.

With regards the radiator, what I meant with that is place the legs agains the rad brakcets and fix the legs in those positions then move the level/legs to against the wall where you can now mark for fixing brackets - no tape measure required at all - hope this makes it a little clearer.