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Tiling over Ply on stud walls
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:40 pm
by Denzil
Hi to everyone,
I am in the process of 'creating' a bathroom/shower upstairs and was about to line the stud walling around shower area with 12mm WBP ply as a base covering. I have spent the last goodness knows how long reading the various opinions relating to this general topic!
Can someone enlighten me? Should I carry on and tank that particular area..burn the ply and use aquapanel..leave the bathroom downstairs?
HELP
Unfortunately this is likely to be the first of many such pleas!
Thank you
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:33 am
by DIY_Johnny
The tilers will be along soon but using Aquapanel is an easy job Denzil.
Its strong heavy stuff. I used 12mm aquapanel and tanked it, fairly straightforward job but I think that was overkill, but you buy a tanking kit so all the bits and bobs come in the one kit, simply to install. and when its done its there for life
But I guess now that you have bought the plywood, you may want to use it. You might just wanna check with the guys that you have the studs in the right centers as 12mm ply can be flexible me thinks
Don't forget you undertile bath/shower sealer thingy. They are in all the stores, usually called Homelux
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:38 pm
by lamntile
Do the walls with aquapanel then you have the perfect base for your tiles , also if your tilling the floor again us aquapanel screwing it down onto the joists.
If you are tilling the floor check with the mfr of the shower tray as to what it should be placed on.
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:31 pm
by tictic
with lamtile on this 12mm aquapanel..wouldnt advise any wbp ply on walls "at all" in wetroom/bathroom.
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:47 pm
by DIY_Johnny
As a matter of interest, whats your thoughts lamintile/tictic on D'n'D aquapanel or fixing to wall.
I think building a frame around to support the aquapanel is a real draw back as it makes the room smaller. A lot of bathrooms as so small that it becomes an issue
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:50 pm
by Denzil
Thanks for that, I will have to build something else with the ply!
Since my post I have removed a section of flooring to install a shower deck. Once installed it will be at the same level as the existing t&g flooring. Can I lay homelux or similar and tile or do I have to muck the levels up by laying additional ply?
Nothing is ever simple.....apart from a DIYer with a chainsaw that is!
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:58 pm
by tictic
NewbieJohn wrote:As a matter of interest, whats your thoughts lamintile/tictic on D'n'D aquapanel or fixing to wall.
I think building a frame around to support the aquapanel is a real draw back as it makes the room smaller. A lot of bathrooms as so small that it becomes an issue
ALWAYS mechincal fixing for aquapanels newbiejohn never dot/dab them u will not have any manufacturers guarantee mate
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:00 pm
by tictic
Denzil wrote:Thanks for that, I will have to build something else with the ply!
Since my post I have removed a section of flooring to install a shower deck. Once installed it will be at the same level as the existing t&g flooring. Can I lay homelux or similar and tile or do I have to muck the levels up by laying additional ply?
Nothing is ever simple.....apart from a DIYer with a chainsaw that is!
lay 6mm backerboards glued and screwed then tank over it with homelux floor matting.
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:03 pm
by tictic
tictic wrote:Denzil wrote:Thanks for that, I will have to build something else with the ply!
Since my post I have removed a section of flooring to install a shower deck. Once installed it will be at the same level as the existing t&g flooring. Can I lay homelux or similar and tile or do I have to muck the levels up by laying additional ply?
Nothing is ever simple.....apart from a DIYer with a chainsaw that is!
lay 6mm backerboards glued and screwed then tank over it with homelux floor matting.
sorry denzil also prime the floor fisrt with either bal apd or sbr proir to 6mm b/boards.
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:16 pm
by tictic
NewbieJohn wrote:As a matter of interest, whats your thoughts lamintile/tictic on D'n'D aquapanel or fixing to wall.
I think building a frame around to support the aquapanel is a real draw back as it makes the room smaller. A lot of bathrooms as so small that it becomes an issue
also john most b/room are already p/boarded and studded so its just a case of ripping p/b off and reboarding onto exsisting stud work..
or if brick, plastrered walls etc.. stud out, i use 80mm fischers usually onto 2x2.
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:06 pm
by tictic
tictic wrote:Denzil wrote:Thanks for that, I will have to build something else with the ply!
Since my post I have removed a section of flooring to install a shower deck. Once installed it will be at the same level as the existing t&g flooring. Can I lay homelux or similar and tile or do I have to muck the levels up by laying additional ply?
Nothing is ever simple.....apart from a DIYer with a chainsaw that is!
lay 6mm backerboards glued and screwed then tank over it with homelux floor matting.
overboard with 6mm b/b..
need 2 reread my own posts ere...
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:10 pm
by tictic
just in case "someone"jumps down my throat..
only kidding..how u doing the scruff mate..hows that driveway coming on bud
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:25 am
by DIY_Johnny
Regarding aqua panel. For my bathroom I had a real issue with space. Shower tray was just too wide to build a frame. I had solid walls so I d’n’d aquapanel mainly to just get it level (every though the manufactorer said not too!) I swung out of it like a retarded ape. It did stick hard, however given that its supposed to be mechanically fixed I put 60mm fisher fixings in at 300 centers. Tanked (shower area only) it over and tiled Went ok.
I suppose the better way to do it would be to just plaster or render the wall and then tanked but my plastering looks like it belongs in the Tate modern
For my learning what do you think about that way (feel free to be critical!)
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:48 pm
by tictic
NewbieJohn wrote:Regarding aqua panel. For my bathroom I had a real issue with space. Shower tray was just too wide to build a frame. I had solid walls so I d’n’d aquapanel mainly to just get it level (every though the manufactorer said not too!) I swung out of it like a retarded ape. It did stick hard, however given that its supposed to be mechanically fixed I put 60mm fisher fixings in at 300 centers. Tanked (shower area only) it over and tiled Went ok.
I suppose the better way to do it would be to just plaster or render the wall and then tanked but my plastering looks like it belongs in the Tate modern
For my learning what do you think about that way (feel free to be critical!)
should be ok john
but maybe next time d/dab 12.5mm moisture resistant p/board then tank or brush up on ur plastering skills
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:07 pm
by DIY_Johnny
Cheers tic tic
Plastering really puts me in a bad mood, any time I do it there is a lot of this