The Quest for a new drill/driver and brand??????????????????

Jaeger_S2k · Post by **Jaeger_S2k** » Thu May 03, 2007 9:51 pm

Oh the pain!

Black & Decker, Bosch, Dewalt, Makita, Metabo, Panasonic, Ryobi, Yada, Yada, Yada.

Been scouring the 'tinternet and found this NEW Bad Boy from Makita ...

Main concern would be 1 tool 4 functions, if it breaks I'm toolless (so to speak)

Opinions/thoughts?

http://www.toolshopdirect.co.uk/ishop/9 ... r4954.html

Found it at a bargain price £130 plus VAT here...
http://www.ps-tools.com/catalog/product ... 84e643903e

jason123 · Post by **jason123** » Thu May 03, 2007 10:47 pm

Ive got the Makita 12V drill driver with 3 batterys, cant complain, virtually finished the kitchen on one battery. When the battery fecked up, SF changed the lot ASAP

Do you need to go to the expense of Li Ion batterys??

Jaeger_S2k · Post by **Jaeger_S2k** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:05 pm

Do we ever need to go for the 'latest'?

OF COURSE we do, I'm thinking ahead

I've had enough of the cheap battery tools I've put up with as I had 'given this lark up'.

They were fine for the odd job but I just get frustrated now with the lack of charge and grunt. 18v Li Ion batteries light weight and can be used in the more demanding battery tools, SDS, Recip etc.

It's an route rather than just a single tool purchase.
The pound seems strong against most currency at the mo and the AUS $ around 2.4 and the Ausies are 240V and 50Hz

But they don't have the 4 in 1 just yet but chargers and batteries are OK and then off to the Yanks for the bodies only. Well that's what I'm looking at for now.

handyman · Post by **handyman** » Fri May 04, 2007 6:50 am

theres reviews here and on tt about the makita lithium 18volters.

I have the 18v combi, its superb, with the main thing being its lightweight

Jaeger_S2k · Post by **Jaeger_S2k** » Fri May 04, 2007 6:59 am

handyman wrote:theres reviews here and on tt about the makita lithium 18volters.

I have the 18v combi, its superb, with the main thing being its lightweight

Yeah, one of the main reasons for looking at it.

And its got light on the front

handyman · Post by **handyman** » Fri May 04, 2007 7:24 am

did you see my post on the problem with the batteries?..........charge times

tim'll fix it · Post by **tim'll fix it** » Fri May 04, 2007 7:26 am

i read that the 4 in 1 was a bit naff on some fronts poor drilling capacity for example I would personally get a combi and a separate impact

handyman · Post by **handyman** » Fri May 04, 2007 7:32 am

the hammer action on the combi is really good, but this is me comparing it to a dewalt 18v one, so its no comparison anyway really (as the dewalt is really pish)

RF Lighting · Post by **RF Lighting** » Fri May 04, 2007 9:34 pm

Not sure if it is quite what you are after, but a couple of us at work have bought our selves the new little bosch screwdrivers. (I've had mine for about 3 months now)

It is super light weight, good battery run time (its li-ion), torque settings, small enough to get into most tight corners, yet powerful enough to drive a 4" 10 screw into timber without a pilot hole.

Charge time is about 30mins IIRC

Oh and most importantly - It's got a light on it

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro ... 5&id=61739

Can't sing its praises highly enough. The only thing you need to note is as it doesnt have a proper chuck, so you need to either buy drill bits with a hex shank, or a decent flip driver (the cheap screwfix ones dont fit very well)

Jaeger_S2k · Post by **Jaeger_S2k** » Fri May 04, 2007 10:03 pm

That's a nice piece.

I'm looking for more of an all-rounder, I do just about everything inside a house from Plumbing and Gas Fitting (my claimed original trade), Plastering (new skill discovered and developing with the help of the guys here, Electrics, ruff joinery (stud walls and the likes) but have always had an interest to produce better wooden projects (must be from hanging around my Grandfather who was a Cabinet maker and my Grandma a French Polisher), decorating and general maintenance and refurb.

So a more 'all round' drill driver would suit better.

Have the opportunity to watch and quiz a highly acclaimed Brick Layer for the next few weeks as they are FINALLY coming out of the ground on the extension!! Hoorah!!!!

Jaeger_S2k · Post by **Jaeger_S2k** » Fri May 04, 2007 10:30 pm

handyman wrote:did you see my post on the problem with the batteries?..........charge times

Yes I did, sorry forgot to reply. Could be a cycling issue but li ion arn't suppose to suffer from it? But it's still pretty quick compared to my hit and miss stuff.

Richard Puller · Post by **Richard Puller** » Thu May 17, 2007 4:30 pm

Allan,
I'm a Plumber and have the 4 in 1 and it's the dogs b*llocks, of course it's got limitations on masonary for example, but that's what a sds+ is for.

There's loads of 6mm hex drill bits, augers, speed bits etc available now and I find it can handle most driving and drilling jobs. The impulse screwdriver is very, very good, it makes you think ''how did I get by before buying this tool''!!!

The main reason I went for this tool was, I got sick of tightening chucks and drill bits slipping out, then falling off the scaffolding(that's the bits not me!!!)

Oddjob · Post by **Oddjob** » Thu May 17, 2007 5:27 pm

I've been using the Li-Ion impact driver for a couple of years now, I had one of the first ones in the country. If you have used one then you will already know about thier phenominal power in blind-driving but how about its work rate?

The Makita impact driver is amazing. there. I said it.

A short while after I bought it we had to construct some decking. When it came to laying the boards over the frmawork I had two other lads on site with me. They were armed with 18v Ryobi dril/drivers. We were driving 63mm fastenmaster deckscrews. Not only was my workrate 50% better than the lads (I was driving 3 screws in the time it took for them to drive 2, they really were trying to keep up!) but the makita batteries carried a better duty cycle even though they carried the same (ish) AH rating as the Ryobi's.

One of the Ryobi's died during the test, smoke, sparks, the lot!

In short, I cannot recommend the Makita drill drivers enough, they are a stonking tool!