Steel threaded pipework

Metalworking questions in this section please

Moderator: Moderators

Post Reply
Hitch
Senior Member
Posts: 6055
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:16 pm
Location: Somerset
Has thanked: 77 times
Been thanked: 335 times

Steel threaded pipework

Post by Hitch »

Deffo one for Village Idiot....

Weve got a job in the pipe line ( :oops: ) installing a big backup generator, underground.

One of the jobs that needs to be done is install the fuel line.
Apparently its mostly 2"BSP (seems big for a fuel line!?)
I suppose its then reduced at filters etc....and finally to the engine.

One aspect of metalwork i have never really done much of is pipework.

Questions i have...

Sealing compound/tape for Diesel fuel? Is PTFE the way or should i be looking at something else...?

Leak testing, is it the norm to leak test a diesel line before filling with fuel?
If so, how? A hydraulic type tester?

Any other points i should note?

:thumbright:
[size=100][color=green][b]Why isn't the number 11 pronounced onety one? [/b][/color][/size]
User avatar
Razor
Senior Member
Posts: 8760
Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:21 pm
Location: Northampton
Has thanked: 483 times
Been thanked: 1251 times

Re: Steel threaded pipework

Post by Razor »

Hitch wrote:Deffo one for the Village Idiot....
Or the Scruff




Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference :wink:
User avatar
thescruff
Senior Member
Posts: 49685
Joined: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:46 am
Location: Bath
Has thanked: 360 times
Been thanked: 3735 times

Post by thescruff »

Loctite 55 string.

Pressure test depends what the spec says, twice working pressure normally.
User avatar
village idiot
diesel demon
Posts: 2467
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:30 pm
Location: In a world of his own
Has thanked: 104 times
Been thanked: 104 times

Post by village idiot »

Hitch, i used Heldite jointing compound on the male threads, method i used was heldite/ptfe tape/more heldite
we tested using air to 10psi(0.7bar) for 30 mins, using soapy on the threads (mix up some fairy & water in a plant sprayer & squirt it at the threads, you'll soon see if there's a leak)
just thinking though, you might need to use plastic underground these days, BT took a lot of their bulk tanks out due to an underground section of pipe though they were bottom entry tanks with the potential to dump the contents of the tank if the pipe fractured
i will try & find the spec sheet from the EPA re above ground tanks/burried pipework
i love being married
it's great to find that one special person that you want to annoy for the rest of your life

I have a soft spot for the wife, it's a peat bog just outside Ardross

Still Yes Highland
User avatar
village idiot
diesel demon
Posts: 2467
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:30 pm
Location: In a world of his own
Has thanked: 104 times
Been thanked: 104 times

Post by village idiot »

from here


Pipework

You must ensure that any sight gauge is properly supported and fitted with a valve that closes automatically when it is not in use.

You must position any fill pipe, draw-off pipe or vent pipe to minimise the risk of damage. If any fill pipe, draw-off pipe or vent pipe is above ground, you must ensure that it is properly supported.

In England the vent pipe must be positioned to direct any spilt oil vertically downwards into the secondary containment system (SCS).

If any fill or draw-off pipe is underground, you must ensure that it:

* has no mechanical joints, except where you can access them for inspection
* is protected from physical damage
* has adequate facilities for detecting leaks.


Preventing leaks

If any underground fill or draw-off pipe is fitted with a leak detection device, you must maintain and test the device regularly to ensure that it works properly. In Scotland you must test detection devices at least every five years.

If any underground fill or draw-off pipe is not fitted with a leak detection device, you must test the pipe for leaks before it is first used. You must carry out further tests for leaks at least once every ten years, or in the case of pipes with mechanical joints, at least once every five years.

You must protect any metal fill pipes, draw-off pipes or overflow pipes, from corrosion. In Scotland, you must not use pipes that are permeable to hydrocarbon vapours.

If you can’t see the tank and any vent pipe from where the filling process is controlled, you must fit an automatic overfill prevention device. This could include an alarm or a fail safe device.

looks like double containment plastic then
i can put you in touch with old boss in Witney if you want????


:roll:
i love being married
it's great to find that one special person that you want to annoy for the rest of your life

I have a soft spot for the wife, it's a peat bog just outside Ardross

Still Yes Highland
User avatar
village idiot
diesel demon
Posts: 2467
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:30 pm
Location: In a world of his own
Has thanked: 104 times
Been thanked: 104 times

Post by village idiot »

if you go ahead with steel, make it black as galv reacts with diesel & wrap pipe in denso tape
i love being married
it's great to find that one special person that you want to annoy for the rest of your life

I have a soft spot for the wife, it's a peat bog just outside Ardross

Still Yes Highland
Hitch
Senior Member
Posts: 6055
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:16 pm
Location: Somerset
Has thanked: 77 times
Been thanked: 335 times

Post by Hitch »

Nice advice, cheers!
Site bookmarked for future ref.

Im not sure of the setup atm, all ive been told is its a biggish genny, in a big underground hole, with ductwork, i assume air in, exhaust, and fuel lines.

Good tip about the black pipe, i wouldn't have known that :oops:
[size=100][color=green][b]Why isn't the number 11 pronounced onety one? [/b][/color][/size]
User avatar
thescruff
Senior Member
Posts: 49685
Joined: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:46 am
Location: Bath
Has thanked: 360 times
Been thanked: 3735 times

Post by thescruff »

It would pay you to look at Qual-oil green pe pipe for the underground bit.
Post Reply

Return to “Metalworking Forum”