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Floor tiles over laminate flooring in bathroom
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:31 pm
by losgiganteskid
As the title suggests I am about to start ceramic tiling in the bathroom which has wooden flooring over which is sound laminate. Is it ok to merely fix the tiles over the laminate - ? - if not why not ?
Thanks
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:42 pm
by big-all
plastic surface /not screwed down/many many joins/unstable when wet/
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:50 pm
by DIY_Johnny
why leave it down anyway ? simply to take up, whats the subfloor?
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:00 pm
by losgiganteskid
I wanted to leave it down cos its in good condition and would provide a sound smooth surface upon which to lay the tiles. The sub floor is ordinary floorboards, which are not as flat as the existing top laminate.
I'm very tempted to leave the laminate - what is the likely consequence if any of that
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:27 pm
by handyman
Adhesive might not stick to the plastic surface very well. The laminate is floating, so the tiles will also float, and the movement may well stress the tiles, as the tiles surface will be closer to the skirting than the expansion gap of the laminate. The laminate will have insulation under it, so laminate/insulation will have movement, which will also result in the grout/adhesive failing.
You take laminate up, and replace with cement board or ply screwed down, then tile on that. Doing anything that includes the laminate will just be a daft thing to do.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:38 pm
by DIY_Johnny
the cement based board is very easy to put down, it can be cut with a stanley knife and tiles adher well to it.
Your laminate will be ruined anyway
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:54 pm
by marc1106
losgiganteskid wrote:I wanted to leave it down cos its in good condition and would provide a sound smooth surface upon which to lay the tiles. The sub floor is ordinary floorboards, which are not as flat as the existing top laminate.
I'm very tempted to leave the laminate - what is the likely consequence if any of that
the laminate is what is known as "FLOATING" therefore is deflects when you walk on it! when tiled floors deflect they debond and lift therefore they dont stay down!
as someone else said remove the laminate then lay 6m hardibacker or equivalent, then tile to that!
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:55 pm
by marc1106
why did that post come out in large font?
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:58 pm
by thescruff
the [/b] is after the quote.
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:59 pm
by marc1106
aha thanks Scruffie
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:20 pm
by Only-Me
Do it right first time.........and your'll have no problems.
Take up laminate......over board floorboards........tile. using flexible cement and flexi grout.
If you tile over laminate....you WILL have problems.
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:28 pm
by losgiganteskid
handyman wrote:Adhesive might not stick to the plastic surface very well.
As an experiment I applied some tile adhesive (for wood) on the laminate 48 hrs ago and it has set and stuck to the laminate well and took a bit of shifting to remove it so I guess your therory of it not adhereing to the laminate is not correct !
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:36 pm
by handyman
FFS, thats why I put 'might', as I havent been stupid enough to think about putting tiles on laminate. It may stick now, but as everyone else on this thread (apart from you) says, it will fail.
I presume your being an April fool?
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:07 pm
by Razor
Well if you tried it and it stuck I'd say go for it
Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:11 pm
by tictic
losgiganteskid wrote:handyman wrote:Adhesive might not stick to the plastic surface very well.
As an experiment I applied some tile adhesive (for wood) on the laminate 48 hrs ago and it has set and stuck to the laminate well and took a bit of shifting to remove it so I guess your therory of it not adhereing to the laminate is not correct !
am still pmsl...at this thread, from your first one to this...
this adhesive did it come in a bag or tub??
you have been givin THE CORRECT advise on this forum and other forum regarding on what you propose to do...
so if you dont take the advise givin to you.
THEN GO AHEAD AND TILE OVER YOUR LAMINATE BUD