67MPH Limiter

[kellys_eye]

See my post just above yours scruff..... taken direct from the Highway Code site.

The speed limit on dual carriageways for ordinary cars and motorcycles is 70mph unless it is specifically shown otherwise (i.e. a 60mph, 50mph etc sign).

[darrenba]

The speed limit on dual carriageways for ordinary cars and motorcycles is 70mph unless it is specifically shown otherwise (i.e. a 60mph, 50mph etc sign).

Agreed

[thescruff]

When did it change because it always used to be 60mph.

[darrenba]

Dunno - it was 70mph back in 2000 when I got caught speeding on one.

[linz212]

it's a Vauxhall Combi , small van , and unfortunately it is a works van , sounds like a good idea to leave it alone and set off an hour earlier

[kellys_eye]

When did it change because it always used to be 60mph.

I had this same argument (sorry... discussion ) with the Mrs a long time ago and had to quote the HWC before she was convinced. IIRC you have to discern between a road having two lanes flowing in each direction and the same but with a lane separator i.e. a central reservation. Without a central reservation the speed limit is indeed 60mph.

[ultimatehandyman]

When did it change because it always used to be 60mph.

It changed in 1925, just after you got your licence

I also thought it was 60 on dual carriage ways, but I can go a bit faster now

[Hitch]

Not in your van though Chez, 60 in that

Ive looked into it a lot...each time i got a NIP through

[rovert]

The national speed limit for a dual carriageway is 60mph.

Sorry just checked. 70mph unless otherwise stated. For cars, vans derived from cars and motor cycles. All other roads except motorways, national speed limit 60mph.

[thescruff]

Sorry guys, and Rovert

From The Department of Transport.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/sp ... peedlimits

Clarification of national speed limits for vans

It is very important for drivers to bear in mind that vans (and all goods vehicles not exceeding 7.5 tonnes) are subject to lower national speed limits than cars on both single and dual carriageway roads.

Whilst a car may travel at up to 60 mph on single carriageways and 70 mph on dual carriageways vans are only allowed to travel up to 50 mph on single carriageway roads and 60 mph on dual carriageway roads.

[Remember that the speed limits quoted here are national limits, a lower speed limit will apply in built up areas and on many local roads. Where a lower speed limit is signed you must comply with those lower limits].

[rovert]

If I remember rightly there was a tanker drivers strike in the early 70s. the gov imposed a temp 50mph national limit to save fuel (except motorways). After it was over they increased the limit to 60mph permenantly and at sometime later added the 70mph on dual carriageways for cars, motorcycles and vans derived from cars. For all other vehicles including my transit its a max of 60mph on dual carriageways. Unless local signage states a lower speed.

[darrenba]

But is my Navara a car or a van?

[thescruff]

Q. Are there any exemptions from these lower speed limits for vans?

A. There is one (small) group of vans which have the same speed limits are cars by virtue of the definitions in Schedule 6 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act of 1984. These are vans that are both derived from a car chassis and also have a maximum laden weight of no more than 2 tonnes. This means that the weight of the vehicle and the payload it is designed to be able to carry when added together do not exceed 2 tonnes. The van design must be a derivative of a car body, it is not sufficient that it looks similar to a particular car.
Q. Which vans meet the criteria to be considered car derived vans for speed limit purposes?

A. Very few vans will meet the criteria to benefit from the same speed limits as a car. Those that do are likely to be similar to a Ford Fiesta van ,Vauxhall Corsa or Renault Clio van in having maximum payloads of around 500kgs so that when combined with the weight of the vehicle unladen (normally around 1.4 tonnes) the maximum laden weight of the whole vehicle will not exceed 2 tonnes.

What this means is that vans such as the Ford Transit and (and of course the larger panel vans) will not meet the definition of car derived vans set out set out in part IV section 2 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984. Therefore these vehicles will be subject to speed limits of 50mph on single carriageways and 60 mph on dual carriageways.