New electric hob installation

Neelix · Post by **Neelix** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:19 pm

Iirc be 7671 says you need to take into account MIs - it doesn’t say you have to adhere to them

dazzyboy10 · Post by **dazzyboy10** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:26 pm

Neelix wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:19 pm Iirc be 7671 says you need to take into account MIs - it doesn’t say you have to adhere to them

where did you find that info?

Neelix · Post by **Neelix** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:31 pm

dazzyboy10 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:26 pm
Neelix wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:19 pm Iirc be 7671 says you need to take into account MIs - it doesn’t say you have to adhere to them
where did you find that info?

Electrical regs BS 7671 AMD 2

dazzyboy10 · Post by **dazzyboy10** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:07 pm

Neelix wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:31 pm
dazzyboy10 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:26 pm
Neelix wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:19 pm Iirc be 7671 says you need to take into account MIs - it doesn’t say you have to adhere to them
where did you find that info?
Electrical regs BS 7671 AMD 2

Ok well I can't check that as not paying that much for it lol

dazzyboy10 · Post by **dazzyboy10** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:06 pm

Neelix wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:31 pm
dazzyboy10 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:26 pm
Neelix wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:19 pm Iirc be 7671 says you need to take into account MIs - it doesn’t say you have to adhere to them
where did you find that info?
Electrical regs BS 7671 AMD 2

Ok well looks like I'll be sticking to the manufacturers guidance after contacting them. As of this, I will need to remove a wall cabinet and purchase a smaller one and the cutout will go 3 inches over the cutlery drawer. Will this be OK or will I have to purchase a smaller cabinet to house the cutlery drawer so the hob doesn't sit above it?

aeromech3 · Post by **aeromech3** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:17 am

Look up Hob Separator Plate to understand likely problem. However I imagine if you isolate, by closed partition that 3inch section of the drawer, it would serve the same purpose; I have used Door Kick Plate for similar jobs, example only S.fix 5759P.

Neelix · Post by **Neelix** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 7:35 am

dazzyboy10 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:07 pm Ok well I can't check that as not paying that much for it lol

It hurts every time I have to buy a new copy AND the OSG AND do extra exams etc etc

dazzyboy10 · Post by **dazzyboy10** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:20 am

aeromech3 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:17 am Look up Hob Separator Plate to understand likely problem. However I imagine if you isolate, by closed partition that 3inch section of the drawer, it would serve the same purpose; I have used Door Kick Plate for similar jobs, example only S.fix 5759P.

Aren't they normally used for induction hobs?

aeromech3 · Post by **aeromech3** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:13 pm

Why did you ask the question "Will it be OK" and did you read the full reasons for fitting a separator which might not apply to your installation? one of which:-
Stops Items From Getting Caught Underneath
Any drawer installed below an electric hob will be open on its top. If your cooking unit has an open bottom, it is possible that knives, forks, or other long utensils will get shuffled around and catch on a loose wire or jagged metal pieces sticking down from the hob. By adding the separator plate, you prevent all that mayhem.

dazzyboy10 · Post by **dazzyboy10** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:27 pm

aeromech3 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:13 pm Why did you ask the question "Will it be OK" and did you read the full reasons for fitting a separator which might not apply to your installation? one of which:-
Stops Items From Getting Caught Underneath
Any drawer installed below an electric hob will be open on its top. If your cooking unit has an open bottom, it is possible that knives, forks, or other long utensils will get shuffled around and catch on a loose wire or jagged metal pieces sticking down from the hob. By adding the separator plate, you prevent all that mayhem.

The bottom of the hob is covered anyway and only has the mains cable from the back which won't be anywhere near the drawer. Also the hob will only stick out from the underside of the worktop by a couple mil

Neelix · Post by **Neelix** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:22 pm

BS 7671 18th Edition AMD 2

510.3 (page 130) includes "and shall take into account of manufacturers instructions"

dazzyboy10 · Post by **dazzyboy10** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:54 pm

Neelix wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:22 pm BS 7671 18th Edition AMD 2

510.3 (page 130) includes "and shall take into account of manufacturers instructions"

Ok thanks

Neelix · Post by **Neelix** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:22 pm

dazzyboy10 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:54 pm
Neelix wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:22 pm BS 7671 18th Edition AMD 2

510.3 (page 130) includes "and shall take into account of manufacturers instructions"
Ok thanks

So take it into account and then ignore it.

Its an electric hob FFS not a gas one

dazzyboy10 · Post by **dazzyboy10** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:06 pm

Neelix wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:22 pm
dazzyboy10 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:54 pm
Neelix wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:22 pm BS 7671 18th Edition AMD 2

510.3 (page 130) includes "and shall take into account of manufacturers instructions"
Ok thanks
So take it into account and then ignore it.

Its an electric hob FFS not a gas one

Then what if the electrician refuses to install it because its not regulation, even if the new regs state what you're saying?

Neelix · Post by **Neelix** » Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:21 pm

dazzyboy10 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:06 pm
Neelix wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:22 pm
dazzyboy10 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:54 pm
Neelix wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:22 pm BS 7671 18th Edition AMD 2

510.3 (page 130) includes "and shall take into account of manufacturers instructions"
Ok thanks
So take it into account and then ignore it.

Its an electric hob FFS not a gas one
Then what if the electrician refuses to install it because its not regulation, even if the new regs state what you're saying?

The regs have said that for a few versions